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		<title>Comment on Commenting by Laura Bergeron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Bergeron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 02:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tee hee!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tee hee!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Scepticon</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scepticon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 01:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy to provide some amusement :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to provide some amusement <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Laura Bergeron</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Bergeron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 01:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this article, I&#039;m sending it off to my husband, he will get a chuckle. I was wondering what was with these necklaces. It seems so silly but all of my friends babies wear them. Someone swore it worked for their baby so it must be true. It&#039;s kind of like when my gf&#039;s told me that homeopathic drops will help my baby with colic( like scream 8-10 hours a day colic) ya right! There are just certain phases in a baby&#039;s life that we have to struggle through, it&#039;s just the way it is. Thanks again, my hubby will enjoy this!
Laura]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article, I&#8217;m sending it off to my husband, he will get a chuckle. I was wondering what was with these necklaces. It seems so silly but all of my friends babies wear them. Someone swore it worked for their baby so it must be true. It&#8217;s kind of like when my gf&#8217;s told me that homeopathic drops will help my baby with colic( like scream 8-10 hours a day colic) ya right! There are just certain phases in a baby&#8217;s life that we have to struggle through, it&#8217;s just the way it is. Thanks again, my hubby will enjoy this!<br />
Laura</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Scepticon</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scepticon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 20:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have detailed this somewhere else but I can&#039;t find it so I&#039;m not surprised you haven&#039;t seen it either. I have not said the beads to not work, merely that anecdotes can not be used to say that they do and that the given mechanism of action appears implausible.

Steps that would convince me of the amber analgesic hypothesis (substitute which ever is you favorite mechanism of action for the compound):

1. Studies that show analgesic effect for the compound, dose response curves would be good. This need not be carried out in babies - for practical reasons. Anecdotes are not applicable.

2. Work that shows the compound can be leached out of the amber beads under the conditions it would normally be exposed to on the babies skin.

3. Evidence that the compound is absorbed transdermally and in sufficient quantities to cause the analgesic effect (see those dose response curves of #1).

Should your preferred mechanism of action be more mysterious than a compound within the amber (static electricity, magnetism, healing energy etc) then step #1 becomes very important and would need to be of extremely high quality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have detailed this somewhere else but I can&#8217;t find it so I&#8217;m not surprised you haven&#8217;t seen it either. I have not said the beads to not work, merely that anecdotes can not be used to say that they do and that the given mechanism of action appears implausible.</p>
<p>Steps that would convince me of the amber analgesic hypothesis (substitute which ever is you favorite mechanism of action for the compound):</p>
<p>1. Studies that show analgesic effect for the compound, dose response curves would be good. This need not be carried out in babies &#8211; for practical reasons. Anecdotes are not applicable.</p>
<p>2. Work that shows the compound can be leached out of the amber beads under the conditions it would normally be exposed to on the babies skin.</p>
<p>3. Evidence that the compound is absorbed transdermally and in sufficient quantities to cause the analgesic effect (see those dose response curves of #1).</p>
<p>Should your preferred mechanism of action be more mysterious than a compound within the amber (static electricity, magnetism, healing energy etc) then step #1 becomes very important and would need to be of extremely high quality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Scepticon</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scepticon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 19:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks. 
As Dave mentions below this does seem to support the notion that the succinic acid does not leave the amber as it would then irritate the skin. I agree with his &quot;almost&quot; as we don&#039;t have a threshold of action for this so it could be leaching out at doses that would not cause this reaction.

Also, I do love your gravatar handle, evolution does rule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks.<br />
As Dave mentions below this does seem to support the notion that the succinic acid does not leave the amber as it would then irritate the skin. I agree with his &#8220;almost&#8221; as we don&#8217;t have a threshold of action for this so it could be leaching out at doses that would not cause this reaction.</p>
<p>Also, I do love your gravatar handle, evolution does rule.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Dave Joyce</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7887</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Joyce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 19:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What kind of evidence do you need to assert a cause and effect? Just because I&#039;m unable to explain how something works doesn&#039;t mean that it doesn&#039;t work - just that I can&#039;t explain how it does. It&#039;s like trying to prove or disprove a theory of gravity before conclusively establishing that gravity exists.

There&#039;s a theory behind why Amber beads reportedly make a difference. And maybe it&#039;s entirely wrong, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that it has reportedly (through story) made a difference. 

So Instead of trying to figure out *how* they might work, perhaps you could address the question of wether or not we can establish a cause and effect relationship. What is necessary to conclusively establish that relationship?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of evidence do you need to assert a cause and effect? Just because I&#8217;m unable to explain how something works doesn&#8217;t mean that it doesn&#8217;t work &#8211; just that I can&#8217;t explain how it does. It&#8217;s like trying to prove or disprove a theory of gravity before conclusively establishing that gravity exists.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a theory behind why Amber beads reportedly make a difference. And maybe it&#8217;s entirely wrong, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it has reportedly (through story) made a difference. </p>
<p>So Instead of trying to figure out *how* they might work, perhaps you could address the question of wether or not we can establish a cause and effect relationship. What is necessary to conclusively establish that relationship?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Dave</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7881</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 10:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#comment-content-7880&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-7880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sheila Price&lt;/a&gt; :


FYI:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://bio-amber.com/ignitionweb/data/media_centre_files/661/MSDS_SUCCINIC_ACID_USA_ENGLISH_VERSION.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bio-amber.com/ignitionweb/data/media_centre_files/661/MSDS_SUCCINIC_ACID_USA_ENGLISH_VERSION.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
(Hazzard – Skin Irritant)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha ha, that *almost* proves that no acid gets out of the amber, which would falsify the claimed method of action. The unlikeliness of the acid getting out of the amber (where it has presumably been locked for thousands of years, just waiting for a baby&#039;s skin to release it) has been pointed out by many on this thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="#comment-content-7880"><p>
<a href="#comment-7880" rel="nofollow">Sheila Price</a> :</p>
<p>FYI:<br />
<a href="http://bio-amber.com/ignitionweb/data/media_centre_files/661/MSDS_SUCCINIC_ACID_USA_ENGLISH_VERSION.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bio-amber.com/ignitionweb/data/media_centre_files/661/MSDS_SUCCINIC_ACID_USA_ENGLISH_VERSION.pdf</a><br />
(Hazzard – Skin Irritant)
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<p>Ha ha, that *almost* proves that no acid gets out of the amber, which would falsify the claimed method of action. The unlikeliness of the acid getting out of the amber (where it has presumably been locked for thousands of years, just waiting for a baby&#8217;s skin to release it) has been pointed out by many on this thread.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Sheila Price</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheila Price]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 10:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI:

http://bio-amber.com/ignitionweb/data/media_centre_files/661/MSDS_SUCCINIC_ACID_USA_ENGLISH_VERSION.pdf

(Hazzard - Skin Irritant)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI:</p>
<p><a href="http://bio-amber.com/ignitionweb/data/media_centre_files/661/MSDS_SUCCINIC_ACID_USA_ENGLISH_VERSION.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://bio-amber.com/ignitionweb/data/media_centre_files/661/MSDS_SUCCINIC_ACID_USA_ENGLISH_VERSION.pdf</a></p>
<p>(Hazzard &#8211; Skin Irritant)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Deals and Altmed Pseudoscience by Scepticon</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/daily-deals-and-altmed-pseudoscience/#comment-7872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scepticon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 22:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, sounds like they are trying to walk a line of impartiality (or at least make it look like they are) and not succeeding. A better idea would be to list the items, but allow criticism to remain on the discussion. Meh, easier to delete everything I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sounds like they are trying to walk a line of impartiality (or at least make it look like they are) and not succeeding. A better idea would be to list the items, but allow criticism to remain on the discussion. Meh, easier to delete everything I suppose.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Deals and Altmed Pseudoscience by Mark Hanna</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/daily-deals-and-altmed-pseudoscience/#comment-7870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 22:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week a ended up having a couple of conversations with GrabOne representatives who claimed that they avoid allowing therapeutic claims in advertisements on GrabOne and just let the customers decide from themselves. That&#039;s all well and good, aside from the fact that many advertisements very definitely _do_ make therapeutic claims, but it seems they&#039;re more interested in running a successful business and less interested in ethics and not being enablers of health fraud. Very frustrating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week a ended up having a couple of conversations with GrabOne representatives who claimed that they avoid allowing therapeutic claims in advertisements on GrabOne and just let the customers decide from themselves. That&#8217;s all well and good, aside from the fact that many advertisements very definitely _do_ make therapeutic claims, but it seems they&#8217;re more interested in running a successful business and less interested in ethics and not being enablers of health fraud. Very frustrating.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Deals and Altmed Pseudoscience by Scepticon</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/daily-deals-and-altmed-pseudoscience/#comment-7869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scepticon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 22:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see there is a psychic reading on there today.....

Anyway, I understand the motivation for grabone to be uncritical of their products to a degree and keep on the topic of questions about products. But it&#039;s still frustrating when patently ridiculous items and services can&#039;t have even a sniff of a whiff of a ghost of criticism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see there is a psychic reading on there today&#8230;..</p>
<p>Anyway, I understand the motivation for grabone to be uncritical of their products to a degree and keep on the topic of questions about products. But it&#8217;s still frustrating when patently ridiculous items and services can&#8217;t have even a sniff of a whiff of a ghost of criticism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Deals and Altmed Pseudoscience by Mark Hanna</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/daily-deals-and-altmed-pseudoscience/#comment-7867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GrabOne&#039;s annoyed me in the same way. I&#039;ve had comments removed when trying to point out that something&#039;s bullshit and had to change tactic to &quot;just asking questions&quot;, basically asking what things do and asking for evidence supporting it.

I have a bit of a hobby of making complaints to the Advertising Standards Authority, but GrabOne&#039;s ads never last as long as the process of having a complaint upheld takes so they pretty much always end up &quot;Settled&quot;. Very frustrating - they seem to essentially escape the industry&#039;s self-regulation in this way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GrabOne&#8217;s annoyed me in the same way. I&#8217;ve had comments removed when trying to point out that something&#8217;s bullshit and had to change tactic to &#8220;just asking questions&#8221;, basically asking what things do and asking for evidence supporting it.</p>
<p>I have a bit of a hobby of making complaints to the Advertising Standards Authority, but GrabOne&#8217;s ads never last as long as the process of having a complaint upheld takes so they pretty much always end up &#8220;Settled&#8221;. Very frustrating &#8211; they seem to essentially escape the industry&#8217;s self-regulation in this way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Follow-Up by Teething Necklaces: Are they a scam? (I&#8217;ll give you a hint, the answer is &#8216;yes&#8217;) &#124; NannySavvy</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/amber-teething-beads-a-follow-up/#comment-7817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teething Necklaces: Are they a scam? (I&#8217;ll give you a hint, the answer is &#8216;yes&#8217;) &#124; NannySavvy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Amber beads &#8211; a follow up to thousands of comments [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Amber beads &#8211; a follow up to thousands of comments [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Daily Deals and Altmed Pseudoscience by Scepticon</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/daily-deals-and-altmed-pseudoscience/#comment-7805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scepticon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 21:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They obviously don&#039;t have the right marketing person on the job. :)
Nano is big right now too, Quantum Energy Nano Calcium Activation Cup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They obviously don&#8217;t have the right marketing person on the job. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Nano is big right now too, Quantum Energy Nano Calcium Activation Cup.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amber Teething Beads: A Few Points to Consider by Amber beads&#8230;.effective or risky for teething pain? &#124; raisingkidswithlove</title>
		<link>http://scepticon.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/amber-teething-beads-a-few-points-to-consider/#comment-7803</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amber beads&#8230;.effective or risky for teething pain? &#124; raisingkidswithlove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 15:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] is concerned about the increase in the use of amber beads sent me some information and a very good review of evidence. The problem is the “evidence” really is non-existent.  There is no scientific study that [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is concerned about the increase in the use of amber beads sent me some information and a very good review of evidence. The problem is the “evidence” really is non-existent.  There is no scientific study that [&#8230;]</p>
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